INTERNATIONAL ANARCHIST MOVEMENT-GREECE:

INTERVIEW WITH THE GREEK ESE:

The following text is taken from the A-Infos website, and it is an interview conducted by the French anarcho-syndicalist CNT-F with the international secretary of the Greek anarcho-syndicalist ESE (Eleftheriaki Sindikalistiki Enosi). Both organizations are in the current of international anarcho-syndicalism outside of the AIT. The following gives more background to the recent events in Greece.

To say the least mass uprisings always catch ideologues by surprise. This is as true for those who see such things as the be-all and end-all of their ideology, the "insurrectionists", as for those who see beyond such ephemeral events. Molly was in Greece a few years ago, and she took note of the divisions of the Greek anarchists, between those who had a positive vision of a libertarian society and those whose whole political activity revolved around confrontation, the "autonomists". No doubt the latter are now breaking their arms patting themselves on the back with this supposed "confirmation" of their vision. As events develop, however, it is becoming more and more apparent just how much of a brake they are on the positive development of the riots into a true change in the way that society is organized. "More and more fighting" is not any sort of program. If the Greek autonomists are congratulating themselves their American admirers are practically pissing their pants with joy. When the inevitable happens, and the movement recedes, one hopes that the piss will turn to the feces of shame, but lots of luck on that.

In the absence of a large anarchist movement this mass uprising of the young in Greece is rapidly being colonized by the parties of the left. That sort of thing is inevitable, as much larger forces than the anarchists move in to advance their own interests. The problem is that even the most "progressive" of these, the Greek Coalition of the Radical Left-Syriza (see also the Wikipedia article on this party), hardly has such things as self-management or radical decentralization on its agenda.

Some forces within the Greek anarchist movement such as the platformists, the ESE and the Anti-Authoritarian Movement do indeed have such a vision that would move the present situation beyond mere street fighting, but it is a fact of life that they are quite small and their programs are barely beyond generalities. They are simply unprepared, as are we all, for events such as are happening now. Still, the way they see forward is actually a way forward and not merely emotional bluster. Here's the interview with one of their representatives.

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An interview by the French CNT-F with the International Secretary of the Greece ESE (union of libertarian syndicalists):

An interview by the CNT-F with Yannis - the International Secretary of the ESE (union of libertarian syndicalists - Eleftheriaki Sindikalistiki Enosi), discussing the death of Alexis Grigoropoulos and the events that have followed.

Q. Can you describe the events surrounding the death of Alexis again?

A. For the last three years the Greek police's strategy in Exârcheia, a district famous for popular struggle and home to many students., young people and libertarians, has been one of provocation. Police patrols have become more frequent recently and on a daily basis the police are insulting the people in the area. When it comes to the murder of this 15 year-old boy all the witnesses (residents, passers-by etc) state that the police were provoking a group of young people by insulting them. When the youths responded the police parked their car and then returned to where the youths were sitting. Then they fired three times. The witnesses state that the murderer fired directly at Alexis who died on the pavement.

Q.What are the tactics of the Greek police?

A.Since the end of the dictatorship of the Colonels dozens of Greeks have been killed by the police. Amongst the dead are: Mikalis Kaltezas, a 15 year-old anarchist militant killed in 1985; Issidoros Issidoropoulos, a 16 year-old extreme left-wing militant killed in 1976; Koumis and Kanellopoulou, two demonstrators and also a number of immigrants and people from ethnic minorities (gypsies and Thracian Turks etc). Recently the police murdered a young disabled boy. At the same time we're seeing countless cases of militants, demonstrators and immigrants being tortured by the police; as well as a systematic and unjustified use of tear gas bombs and other gas weapons at all demonstrations. I'll add a final note, a police officer has never been killed by a demonstrator, furthermore no police officer, has ever spent more than two and a half years in prison.

Q.What is going on, and where?

A.The revolt has exploded in virtually all the regional capitals. In Salonika, Agrinion, Yannena and across Crete there have been clashes between police and demonstrators. In Patras the police attacked demonstrators accompanied by a battalion of armed neo-nazis, so-called "outraged citizens". Every day in Athens there are two or three different demonstrations, with tens of thousands of participants. In solidarity 20000 demonstrators attended the funeral of Alexandros Grigoropoulos. This isn't about "blind rebellion" like the media claim, on the contrary it is a real movement and one that continues... The targets of the demonstrators are the banks and the multinational enterprises that are the symbols of poverty and suffering. The revolt unites young and old, militants and the non-politicised. It is the largest revolt in Greece since the Second World War and the Civil War which followed in Greece. It could be the largest revolt in the western world for the last forty years. For us this revolt is a completely legitimate response.

Q.Apart from the murder of this young man, what are the other reasons for this explosion of protests?

A.We are the first post-war generation to experience worse economic and employment conditions than our parents. In Greece we often speak of the "700 euro generation". Without a doubt this slogan doesn't express how bad things are. In fact the majority of people under 30 live on less than 700 euros a month. The only jobs available are casual or short term, a lot of people are forced to work on the black market. The bosses fire people, blaming them for the crisis, meanwhile Greek Capital is benefiting from the massive profits gained from the pillage of the Balkans.

The situation is worse for immigrants who suffer from racist laws, widespread xenophobia and attacks from Nazi groups which go unpunished. We must underline that immigrants have played a large part in this movement and, as usual, they have been the main victims of state repression. Of the 400 arrests so far, half have been of immigrants. As far as politics and corruption goes I can briefly sum up the situation for you: Recently there was a scandal as the 'Vatopedio' affair saw the government giving land to the church. Two families, the Papandreous of the centre-left and the Caramanlis of the right have governed Greece for 34 of the last 40 years. To this we can add the disastrous mismanagement of the fires in 2007 and of the aftermath; the attacks on Social Security by the Socialists in 2001 and by the right in 2006. And the privatisation of the electricity company, the ports and of Olympic Airways.

*Interview by Jérémie, International Secretary of the CNT.

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OTHER NEWS ABOUT GREECE:

Greek Riots: Banks and Cars Burnt by Greek Mob

Greek Riots-Eyewitness Reports

New Wave of Riots Expected as 100,000 Face Sack in Greece

INTERNATIONAL POLITICS-GREECE:

GREEK RIOTS-THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME:

As the riots in Greece continue, with no clear victor on either side, public opinion in that country becomes more and more polarized on one side or the other. Various commentators from all political camps have given their opinions. Some of these have been quite off the wall. From the more gung-ho anarchists comes the idea that this is some sort of "revolution". It clearly is not, and cannot be until the majority of the population moves to change their actual conditions of living. Fighting police is essentially beside the point in terms of what defines "revolution". It is not even a "revolutionary situation" because presently the powers that be are still capable of ruling (poorly it must be admitted) as they have and the majority of the population are not yet under the necessity to change the way that they live. "Pre-revolutionary situation" perhaps best defines what is happening there. Political forces on the left, far larger than the anarchists, are quite hesitant, even in pursuit of their minimal goal of toppling the Conservative government.

This may be a good thing. The "autonomist" section of the Greek anarchist movement bears at least some credit for decades of keeping the pot boiling (though they haven't been the only force behind Greece's radical tradition since the overthrow of the dictatorship in 1974. They, however, do not just not have a program, but they glory in this very fact. If they have one idea it is only this..."more riots and more fighting". This incoherence would be fatal in a real revolutionary situation where other forces, better organized and with clearer ideas, would automatically out compete such people in setting up a new "revolutionary" regime. That is unlikely in Greece today. As in France in 1968 it is the Communist Party which in Greece hasn't followed its other European brethren into irrelevance who act as the major brake on the left forces.

Actually my favourite weird take on the events came from a so-called Polish "security expert". While mentioning the conspiracy theory that the riots were orchestrated by American intelligence because Greece had signed some trade deals that the Americans didn't like as "unlikely" but worth mentioning, his major thrust was that because the riots and their international solidarity actions spread so rapidly that they must have been centrally directed. In his mind he brought up the "international Islamist conspiracy" as the evil cabal behind what is happening. One wonders who would be foolish enough to hire his "expertise".

There are, however, other opinions that deserve attention because they have a much greater aura of plausibility about them. One of them is presented below, from the pages of the English newspaper The Independent. Are the riots in Greece merely a foretaste of greater unrest as the present economic hard times linger on ? As the article points out there are structural reasons beyond the clash of ideologies that have led to the present situation, and these reasons are common to many other developed nations.

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Are the Greek riots a taste of things to come?:
Greece's riots are a sign of the economic times. Other countries should beware, says Peter Popham in Athens
Saturday, 13 December 2008

After firing 4,600 tear-gas canisters in the past week, the Greek police have nearly exhausted their stock. As they seek emergency supplies from Israel and Germany, still the petrol bombs and stones of the protesters rain down, with clashes again outside parliament yesterday.

Bringing together youths in their early twenties struggling to survive amid mass youth unemployment and schoolchildren swotting for highly competitive university exams that may not ultimately help them in a treacherous jobs market, the events of the past week could be called the first credit-crunch riots. There have been smaller-scale sympathy attacks from Moscow to Copenhagen, and economists say countries with similarly high youth unemployment problems such as Spain and Italy should prepare for unrest.

Ostensibly, the trigger for the Greek violence was the police shooting of a 15-year-old boy, Alexis Grigoropoulos. A forensic report leaked to Greek newspapers indicated he was killed by a direct shot, not a ricochet as the policeman's lawyer had claimed. The first protesters were on the streets of Athens within 90 minutes of Alexis's death, the start of the most traumatic week Greece has endured for decades. The destructiveness of the daily protests, which left many stores in Athens's smartest shopping area in ruins and caused an estimated €2bn (£1.79bn) in damage, has stunned Greece and baffled the world. And there was no let-up yesterday, as angry youths shrugged off torrential rain to pelt police with firebombs and stones, block major roads and occupy a private radio station.

Their parents grope for explanations. Tonia Katerini, whose 17-year-old son Michalis was out on the streets the day after the killing, emphasised the normality of the protesters. "It's not just 20 or 30 people, we're talking about 1,000 young people. These are not people who live in the dark, they are the sort you see in the cafes. The criminals and drug addicts turned up later, to loot the stores. The children were very angry that one of them had been killed; and they wanted the whole society not to sleep quietly about this, they wanted everyone to feel the same fear they felt. And they were also expressing anger towards society, towards the religion of consumerism, the polarisation of society between the few haves and the many have-nots."

Protest has long been a rite of passage for urban Greek youth. The downfall of the military dictatorship in 1974 is popularly ascribed to a student uprising; the truth was more complicated, but that is the version that has entered student mythology, giving them an enduring sense of their potential. So no one was surprised that Alexis's death a week ago today brought his fellow teenagers on to the streets. But why were the protests so impassioned and long-lasting? "The death of this young boy was a catalyst that brought out all the problems of society and of youth that have been piling up all these years and left to one side with no solutions," said Nikos Mouzelis, emeritus professor of sociology at LSE. "Every day, the youth of this country experiences further marginalisation."

Although Greece's headline unemployment of 7.4 per cent is just below the eurozone average, the OECD estimates that unemployment among those aged 15 to 24 is 22 per cent, although some economists put the real figure at more like 30 per cent.

"Because of unemployment, a quarter of those under 25 are below the poverty line," said Petros Linardos, an economist at the Labour Institute of the Greek trade unions. "That percentage has been increasing for the past 10 years. There is a diffused, widespread feeling that there are no prospects. This is a period when everyone is afraid of the future because of the economic crisis. There is a general feeling that things are going to get worse. And there is no real initiative from the government."

For Greek youngsters such as Michalis Katerini, job prospects are not rosy, but without a university degree they would be far worse, so he and his mother are making serious sacrifices to get him into further education. So inadequate is the teaching in his state high school that he, like tens of thousands of others across the country, must study three hours per night, five nights a week at cramming school after regular school, to have a hope of attaining the high grades required to get the university course of his choice. His mother, whose work as an architect is down 20 per cent on last year, must pay €800 a month to the crammer for the last, crucial year of high school.

She believes the government of Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis faces more turbulence if it fails to grasp the reality of the past week, and pass it off as a spontaneous over-reaction. "The government has tried hard not to connect what is happening with the problems of young people. The government says one boy died, his friends are angry, they over-reacted then anarchists came to join in the game. But this is not the reality."

Vicky Stamatiadou, a kindergarten teacher in the rich northern suburbs with two teenage sons, agrees. "Until now, our society was full of dirty but calm water; nothing was moving, nothing improving, all the problems of our society remained unsolved for years. People pretended that everything was going well. But now this false picture has been broken and we are facing reality."

Greece's official youth unemployment statistics are not far removed from the rates in other European countries with a history of mass protest, such as France, Italy and Spain. With the graffiti "The Coming Insurrection" plastered near the Greek consulate in Bordeaux this week, the warning signs to the rest of the continent's leaders are clear.

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MORE NEWS FROM GREECE:

Here's a selection of various recent articles, from various viewpoints and various countries, about what is happening now in Greece. Molly will continue to update this list as the events continue.

**Fears of Renewed Rioting in Greece, calls for early elections

**Riots in Greece Spark Protest Across Europe

**Greece is Burning:Lost principles have led to lost control

**Violence Continues in Greece for Sixth Day

**Greek Riots"They do protest too much

**Protesters Attack Police Posts in Athens

**Greece:'The Masked Ones' Plot Revolution as riot police begin to run out of tear gas

**The Greek Riots Explained

**Greek Unrest Spreads to the Rest of Europe

**Greek Riots: Teen Tribute Floods Messaging, Video Sites