tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32250954.post2016731516636772224..comments2024-03-12T02:18:53.121-07:00Comments on Molly'sBlog: mollymewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10608757779720671118noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32250954.post-52681940371848137572008-12-23T21:45:00.000-08:002008-12-23T21:45:00.000-08:00I still have not made my mind about the Greek situ...I still have not made my mind about the Greek situation. To be honest, I dont know if things could developped into something more then a youth rebellion. Mybe after all it will be their may 60th but without the general strike (or maybe not).<BR/><BR/>What I do know however is that we never have decades of organising before a window of opportunity opens. If we look at everytime power have tremble on it's basis, it did not last long and it came not after a slow gradual build up but almost sudenly and caught everyone of gard. Even july 1936 came just after a dictatorship and decades where open gradual organising was made virtualy impossible half the time. We can think of many exemples where the potential revolutionary moment happen "too early" in a sense. June 1936, may 1968, 1972 in Quebec.<BR/><BR/>My take is that it take a revolution to get real social change. And revolution is a possibility. We must prepare for it. In the mean time, yeah, gradual organising. No problem. But we must always be prepare to move things a step further. Right now it might mean a factory occupation in Chicago. Tomorow it might means a scenario à l'Argentine. Or worker's council and a full revolution. But in the mean time we must organise. On this at least, we know we agree.Nicolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15916064435601366244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32250954.post-46143893696828681922008-12-22T21:39:00.000-08:002008-12-22T21:39:00.000-08:00The two best sources for the solidarity demonstrat...The two best sources for the solidarity demonstrations are A) The Occupied London Blog (http://www.occupiedlondon.org/blog) which has an extensive listing of all such actions and B) the Center for Strategic Anarchy blog (http://anarchiststrategy.blogspot.com). As hinted above the callout for solidarity CERTAINLY gained a response, but in the worldwide scale of things the response has been tiny. This is only to be expected as the positive vision that I mentioned above hasn't made much of an appearance and likely won't.<BR/> No, Nicolas, I'm still very much a gradualist. As I made plain above the present movement- which seems to have passed its peak by the way, see later posts here- lacks the preliminary preparation and positive vision that only DECADES of everyday organizing can prepare. What is tragic is that there wasn't ENOUGH gradualism beforehand to give the sort of vision and living examples that would have drawn a larger number of the general population into actually changing the conditions of life, something that fighting the cops is irrelevant to. <BR/> In certain situations both gradualists like myself and those who feel that there has to be some sort of "revolution" in the unforseeable future quite often act EXACTLY the same, as long as the revolutionaries have a realistic perspective of what is actually happening. Too often they don't. But I never disagreed with you as much as you might think. <BR/> As I said above I think the Greek movement is now receding, and it is unfortunate that very little will be preserved in terms of partial gains- something that should have been strived for rather than "reaching for the golden ring".mollymewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10608757779720671118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32250954.post-21376397727051111112008-12-22T06:26:00.000-08:002008-12-22T06:26:00.000-08:00Hey Molly,I found this funny as what is happening ...Hey Molly,<BR/><BR/>I found this funny as what is happening is exactly what I had in mind when I wrote «<A HREF="http://mollymew.blogspot.com/2008/06/anarchist-theory-revolution-reformism.html" REL="nofollow">R like Revolution</A>». What's even more funny is that you are comming to similar conclusions despite officialy disagreeing with us back then.<BR/><BR/>The conclusion of «R like Revolution» is close enough to your conclusion:<BR/><BR/><I>There is a gap between the current situation and a revolutionary situation. A gap so great that many believe that a revolution is impossible. Obviously, it is not on the agenda in the immediate future and it does not seem ready to become so in the foreseeable future. That is not the issue.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The challenge is how to increase our relative strengths and to bridge the gap between the present and a revolutionary situation. For our part, we propose a strategy of radicalization of struggles and the creation of counter-powers. It is encouraging the development of consciousness and the autonomy of social movements. Building the power to possibly go on the offensive. Developing self-management and direct democracy in the struggle. Promoting social alternatives without creating illusions.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The revolution is a strategic option, it is our political horizon. It is neither an act of pure will, nor an incantory formula . It is a political perspective. Nobody controls the social climate. Often in the past, when the situation seemed hopelessly blocked, the times have accelerated and the revolution has arisen where nobody expected it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>If it reoccurs, will we ready ?</I><BR/><BR/>I would be interested to know if and how you feel what's happening right now and what you are writting here change your gradualist view.Nicolashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15916064435601366244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32250954.post-3020130556417374832008-12-22T01:32:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:32:00.000-08:00Hey. Molly. I don't know who you are but I like y...Hey. Molly. I don't know who you are but I like your analysis of this.<BR/>What about the initial spill-over into Italy, Spain, Germany that surfaced in the media then quickly subsided? What is Greek media saying?<BR/><BR/>Dennis Morrisseau<BR/>P.O. Box 177<BR/>W. Pawlet, VT 05775<BR/>802 645-9727<BR/>dmorso1@netzero.netAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com